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Thanks, Scott! It's nice to have "permission" to go off course sometimes - it can lead to great moments!
"Permission" granted! Not that I have any power to actually grant it. ^_^
Hey Scott: Great thoughts on creating dialog within the discussion forum. Certainly one of the significant challenges I have is moving beyond the two-way student/instructor conversation to a class-wide dialog. Thanks!
I like the idea of having a thread length goal each week... while I am always pleased to see an actual conversation "take off," I don't think I've ever been explicit in my own goals or expectations for this. Great suggestions!
Eric, I too have struggled with trying to get more than just a two way discussion going. So far, changing the title to emphasize the content within as proven the most helpful in this regard. If anyone else has great ideas along these lines I would love to hear them.
Thanks Jean. I do think the thread length goal should vary depending on the number of students,the level (undergrad, masters, doctoral) and the subject matter of the course. For example, 10 works well in Christian Worldview (CWV 101), but it is a struggle if I teach an entry level course.
Hi Scott,
I thought you did an excellent job of providing tools that that are very applicable to our discussion forum. I appreciate your efforts. Great job my friend. Take care and God Bless!!
Thanks Matt! I appreciate the praise. You have the gift of encouragement my friend.
Hi Scott. These are some great nuggets of wisdom! I am a big believer in the Socratic method and also trying for the long threads that you mentioned. I also like the 15-30% rule. This would make the classroom more student centric. Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge!
Rick, thanks for sharing your thoughts. Not sure how much more wealth is left in my knowledge bank at the moment due to all of the grading I have been doing today, but hopefully I will have part two of the series out tomorrow.
I appreciate the presence you are having and generating in our classes. The level of engagment you are demonstrating commitment to process.
You stated in your opening, "The discussion forum is the heart of the online classroom. It is where the students spend most of their time and where the majority of teaching takes place."
I will think more on the comment. The discussion forum has so much opportunity to be a market central of flowing ideas. How do you manage to arbitrate the students who come to the class only wanting the version of their liberal, midstream or conservative experience validated? How do you manage your own particular views in the engagement of different others?
Oscar, great questions. In fact, they are very much related to the second part of this series on increasing communication within the online classroom. Therefore, I will attempt to address them through my next post which should appear over the weekend. How's that for a plug!? ^_^
Hi Scott,
This may sound like a dumb question but where do you see in angel or in Loud Cloud the percentage of your postings? Take care my friend!!
Matt Hampton
Matt, when you are in the discussion forum you will see a drop down menu next to the "new post" button. The default is "threaded view". Click on it and change it to "at-a-glance-view". There you will see a bar graph, some additional stats and a pie chart that shows the percentage of instructor and student posts.
Aisha, thanks for the weblink. I investigated the site and registered. Any words of wisdom on how to use the site?
Scott after getting registered to www.wiziq.com You will be asked "Are you a teacher " or " a student"
2-.If you are student you can look for courses and subject you want to learn online and If you are a teacher you need to fill your profile and the subjects you want to teach.
3- You can schedule your online classes and can send the link to the students whom you want to teach.
Aisha
Aisha, I registered as a teacher when I went in last. Seems like an interesting site and when I get more time I plan on looking into all the possibilities that it provides. Thanks again for introducing me to wiziq.com.
Scott
Samen, thanks for your comments. Online studies is here to stay and now it is a matter of how to effectively educate students through this medium of instruction.
Scott
Hello Scott:
You bring up some great points about how to use effectively the discussion forum to promote communication within the online setting. I believe that many teachers struggle with transferring from a traditional ground-based classroom to the online environment. If you could proffer any advice for neophyte online teachers, what would you recommend they do to help ease the transfer?
Thanks,
Eric
Eric,
Great question. For those who are just beginning as online instructors, I would recommend focusing on point #4 in the article: Always Ask, Always Respond. I think many neophyte online instructors spend more time addressing the content then they do addressing the student. In other words, it is important to first grasp the student's level of comprehension and then respond with a question that takes draws them even further into the content. If you start with the content without considering the students schema base then you may end up talking over (or under) their heads.
Thanks again for a great question. Sorry it took me two months to respond. ^_^
Scott
Hello Scott:
Thanks for the advice about focusing on the student rather than the content. The online education module (and even the ground-based module) seems to be trending away from an instructor-centric paradigm to a student-centric one. If we do not present the content to our students in an comprehensible manner, we waste both our efforts and the students - not to mention the alienation that might occur. How would you suggest we measure our students' competency regarding the content in the online milieu? Meeting face-to-face allows us the opportunity to gage the students understanding in a personal setting, but the online format can present challenges in this area.
Thanks,
Eric
Eric,
Once again you ask a very insightful question. In fact, it is almost the million dollar question when it comes to online education. How do we measure our students' competency regarding the content (and I would add learning objectives) when the mode of instruction is online?
I believe a large part of successfully measuring compentency depends on the curriculum itself. If the formative and summative assignments have been well designed then we should be able to measure how effectively students are meeting the objectives of the course. The summative assignments must be directly related to the readings and objectives of the course and the formative assignments (i.e., the discussion questions) should act as stepping stones that help students effectively understand and complete the weekly summative assignment(s).
If the course is well designed then the instructor can measure student competency by how well they do on the summative assignments. if it is poorly designed then ... well ... learning sometimes still takes place even in spite of us. ^_^
Scott
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